Re: Commit (JMM-DOUBLEGRAPHICS-1): merge from head 1/2

On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 22:18 -0500, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
> What if you forgot that date? What if someone else wants to do it ?
> Apparently you forget that AbiWord coding is not MG's but "a group of
> developper".

I'll ask again, please stop putting words in my mouth.

What if I forgot that date? I'd look it up or I'd ask uwog.

Look, if you want me to send a special html flash javascript pgp-signed
gift-wrapped mail to the list next time I make a branch, I've already
said that I've no problem with that. I don't see where this
conversation is going.

> >
> > > You still haven't offered ANY serious alternative to what I'm offering
> >
> > Was I joking?
>
> See above.
>

Alright, allow me to clarify, that was what's called a rhetorical
question, because the maker thereof expects that it's generally
understood what the answer is, in this case "No, I am not joking." If
you disagree with me that's one thing, if you want to counter a point I
make that's another, but neither gives you the right to accuse me of not
offering any "serious alternative".

> > And no, I am not telling you that "we might shoot ourself in the foot,"
> > you said that. IF, you have a rather more technical explanation of the
> > foot-shooting bonanza, I'd be glad to hear it.
>
> Yep. Control what you do, and at least you'll save from some mistake.
> Excuse me, but letting a program messup with my code this way just
> scares me, even more because it does it silently. Why do you think
> there is not merge and commit command in CVS ? Not to make it bad. Just
> because a merge should be reviewed ALWAYS.
> Since we don't have non-regression and unit testing, there are at least
> 3 things: build, test and diff review.

First off, fear in my book does not count as a technical reason, that
sounds like nothing but ludditry to me. Second, the ONLY problem we've
had with that branch was the result of human error, and not mine.
Having a program written down as a reference made sure that it could be
corrected and avoided in the future. Third, diff review doesn't make
any sense for LOC that have naught to do with the changes being made in
branch, unless you want uwog never to have a single moment of time with
which to actually make changes, and when relevant changes are made,
that's precisely what happens, cvs aborts, uwog reconciles the diff, and
finishes the sync manually.

> No. It is the lack of explanation about what has been done, and the

I already said that it wouldn't happen again, I can't travel back in
time for you, so I think it's about time to get over that fact.

> No. It is STICKY symbolic tag. It designate a branch, not a tree state.

All symbolic tags, as explained in the manual, are interpretted
according to usage. That is, whether it was requested a date along a
branch, the greatest common ancestor, or the default - the current state
of the branch.

> Apparently she taught you well how to piss off people seriously. You
> just won.

I try to make it a point not to confuse a minor professional
disagreement with personal hatred, I can only wish you'd do the same.
If you don't like that I don't mince words, that's too bad, because it's
what many people appreciate about me and I'm not willing to change that,
but I should think you'd still be able to discern a disagreement about
process from anything more fundamental. After all, as I said on irc,
we're all still working toward the same goal (that is,
AbiWorldDomination).

> 'go ahead' or 'I have my idea, let's talk about it to see what is the

> You are no-ones boss here.

I have never pretended to be, nor have I ever turned down the
opportunity to "talk about it to see what is the best". I approach
these discussions with rational and technically-founded points of
discussion with that very intent. However, I can speak for noone but
myself. If my points of discussion are not countered at their premise
but instead barraged with emotional, vague, and often irrelevant
notions, all I can do is sit back and watch.

-MG
Received on Thu Dec 30 05:17:58 2004