Am Sonntag, den 20.02.2005, 19:15 +0000 schrieb Alan Horkan:
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> > List of changes:
> >
> > File
> > + Items reordered for HIG compliance.
>
> Not sure what this means exactly, the positions in menus can be based on a
> variety of factors. Sometimes alphabetical ordering is helpful but mostly
> things are organised to take advantage of the prime real estate at the
> very top or very bottom of a menu (for speed of access).
Please take the time to build abi and look at the actual changes before
issuing such vague critique.
The positions in menus are based on recommendations made by the HIG.
> > + Import Styles (not entirely sure about that one, maybe it should be
> > hidden away in some next-gen style mgmt dlg we talked about)
> > + Recent files not in submenu
>
> This is probably good for usability but it is annoying and cluttered for
> me as a user. Even with only four items is it cluttered, and I much
> prefer to have a much longer list and keep the items in a submenu.
> If I could have the Recent menu overflow into a full document history I'd
> love it.
Feel free to file RFEs for features you'd like and bugs for cases where
abi contradicts obvious usability principles or HIG recommendations so
nothing gets lost. Patches would be event better.
> > - Open copy (not HIG compl.)
>
> How so?
Not specified by the HIG.
> We used to have Import and Export and they were relabelled Open Copy and
> Save Copy so as to better comply with the HIG.
>
> > Edit
> > + Remove Header
> > + Remove Footer
>
> This might be more consistant with Microsoft Word and I wanted
> somethign like this but I recall Martin deliberately did these they way
> they are for a reason.
>
> > Format
> > + Reordered for hopefully improved handling
>
> Please explain? Does this effect consistency with Microsoft Word?
Again, please build abi to look at the changes or wait until somebody
does it for you.
The patch is there as a basis for discussion. That's how OSS works. I
can't spend so much time arguing, there's bugs to be fixed.
FWIW, consistency with other programs is pretty low on my list.
> > - RTL paragraph setting only via paragraph dlg
>
> I dont use RTL so this works for me but Bidi users might screem for your
> blood over this.
Messages referring to blood, murder and similar things are likely to be
held back by my spam filter ( like
http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8341#c1 ).
> > - Got rid of "Style" submenu
> > - Remove Header
> > - Remove Footer
> >
> > Tools
> > + Check Spelling in toplevel menu
> > - Got rid of "Spelling" submenu (prefs only via prefs dlg)
>
> With Grammar we will soon need some sort of "Spelling and Grammar" submenu
> back so there is no point removing it.
> If you have a lot of plugins installed the Tools menu is pretty
> disorganised, pushing another item to the top level menu doesn't help.
Yet another sign that you did not really /look/ at the changes.
The submenu entry has been traded in for a toplevel entry.
We should have
Tools
Check Spelling
Check Grammar
anyways, IMO.
> > Best,
> > - Rob
>
> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you will probably need to revert a
> lot of those changes, they are far more contraversial than they might
> seem.
No problem at all, user feedback is appreciated.
Best,
- Rob
-- http://abisource.com/~rob/Received on Sun Feb 20 21:13:55 2005
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