Re: official bugreport (because of bugzilla)

On Sat, 15 May 2010 23:01:50 -0400
Kaleb Elwert <vahki.ttc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just saying. I didn't want to make anyone mad. I was just stating my
> experiences because I thought they were related. Sorry to waste your
> time.
>
> - Kaleb

don't worry, am not running mad about this. am possibly a bit straight,
that's my nature. i want the case to be understood correctly because
i want (or need) to use abiword.

melodramus

>
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM, <melodramus@online.de> wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 May 2010 22:11:46 -0400
> > Kaleb Elwert <vahki.ttc@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml
> >>
> >> Please note that LC_ALL is not recommended. It over rides ALL other
> >> language settings. Setting LANG should have the same effect, but
> >> it is possible to individually customize them. Perhaps Abiword
> >> needs this available, I am not sure. I just figured I'd point this
> >> out since I had some weird issues with other programs like this.
> >>
> >> - Kaleb
> >
> > i never had any issue with LC_ALL because it is neither not
> > recommended nor problematic. it is used when no special
> > configuration is wished and otherwise not. this is in the decision
> > of the admin. you may have had problems with your *mixed*
> > configuration (like LANG plus LC_*), which is not only not
> > recommendable but also not intended by the definitions of the open
> > group.
> >
> > melodramus
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM,  <melodramus@online.de> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > hello
> >> >
> >> > i will not file this to bugzilla because it doesn't allow me to
> >> > close my account at my wish. i hope that you are intelligent
> >> > enough (reading the following you should be: Hubert Figuiere:
> >> > Why I left Facebook) to respect this decision and take this
> >> > email as the official bug report.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, 15 May 2010 19:11:08 +0200
> >> > melodramus@online.de wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> hello
> >> >>
> >> >> i wonder if there is a german translation for the dialogs and
> >> >> menus. at least it is not chosen automatically. LC_ALL is set.
> >> >
> >> > support seems to be there:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.abisource.com/dev/strings/stable/de-DE.po
> >> >
> >> > i found nothing in the locale directory but this one here(???):
> >> >
> >> > share/abiword-2.8/strings/de-DE.strings
> >> >
> >> > this seems to be the one?
> >> >
> >> > i also found this very strange piece in the docs:
> >> >
> >> >> AbiWord can work with menus and strings translated into many
> >> >> different languages by configuring the system properly:
> >> >> (...)
> >> >> In a Unix based system, use something like this (using bash):
> >> >>
> >> >> export LANG=sv_SE
> >> >>
> >> >> unset LC_ALL
> >> >>
> >> >> in your .profile
> >> >
> >> > this worked but is not proper anyways, i.e. not posix,
> >> > intimidating system settings and disrespecting admins' decisions!
> >> >
> >> > taken from opengroup (you know them?):
> >> >
> >> > (http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap08.html)
> >> >
> >> > 8.2 Internationalization Variables
> >> >
> >> > This section describes environment variables that are relevant to
> >> > the operation of internationalized interfaces described in IEEE
> >> > Std 1003.1-2001.
> >> >
> >> > Users may use the following environment variables to announce
> >> > specific localization requirements to applications. Applications
> >> > can retrieve this information using the setlocale() function to
> >> > initialize the correct behavior of the internationalized
> >> > interfaces. The descriptions of the internationalization
> >> > environment variables describe the resulting behavior only when
> >> > the application locale is initialized in this way. The use of the
> >> > internationalization variables by utilities described in the
> >> > Shell and Utilities volume of IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 is described
> >> > in the ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES section for those utilities in
> >> > addition to the global effects described in this section.
> >> >
> >> > LANG
> >> >    This variable shall determine the locale category for native
> >> > language, local customs, and coded character set *in the absence
> >> > of* the LC_ALL and other LC_* ( LC_COLLATE , LC_CTYPE ,
> >> > LC_MESSAGES , LC_MONETARY , LC_NUMERIC , LC_TIME ) environment
> >> > variables. (...)
> >> >
> >> > LC_ALL
> >> >   This variable shall determine the values for all locale
> >> > categories. The value of the LC_ALL environment variable has
> >> > precedence over any of the other environment variables starting
> >> > with LC_ ( LC_COLLATE , LC_CTYPE , LC_MESSAGES , LC_MONETARY ,
> >> > LC_NUMERIC , LC_TIME ) *and* the LANG environment variable.
> >> >
> >> > hope you can read! LANG is for the *absense of* LC_ALL and not to
> >> > *drop* LC_ALL and dominate. please respect the posix system.
> >> >
> >> > btw., i will not switch my settings for the only one tool of
> >> > about 300 that wants me to do this for whatever idea behind it.
> >> >
> >> > why you are always doing it different?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> regards
> >> >> MeloDramus <melodramus@online.de>
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> >> >
> >> > MeloDramus <melodramus@online.de>
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> >
> >
> > MeloDramus <melodramus@online.de>
> >

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