Re: Abiword and Images

Ryan, Alan, Hubert,
    thanks for your response.

Thanks for the suggestions: this is what I undestood:
- abiword is not the program I need when I have to mix text and images
(500k image can't generate 5M document!)
- there is a problem with abiword and evince in managing my printer: if
I print the same image using GIMP, the outcome is perfect, black included

So, although my PC is quite old, I need to try using OpenOffice: will
check if it runs properly (i'm sure I'll have to wait a lot ...) and how
the printing is.

Do you know any reason for abiword (and evince) not printing properly ?

Thanks in advance.
Giancarlo.

Ryan Pavlik ha scritto:

>
> Alan Horkan wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Giancarlo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:25:26 +0200
>>> From: Giancarlo <gcmelzi@yahoo.it>
>>> To: abiword-user@abisource.com
>>> Subject: Abiword and Images
>>>
>>>
>>> Team,
>>> I recently installed Xubuntu on my old PC: it's mainly used by my
>>> wife for emails, and my daughter for emails, msn and writing docs.
>>> She started using AbiWord and she is happy with it: quite better and
>>> quicker then the old version of MS Word she had under WinME on the same
>>> system.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Abiword can run on Wine so I must check that you are running (not
>> just the
>> GTK version but) the Gnome version of Abiword? The gnome version in
>> particular uses Gnome print and produces higher quality and more
>> reliable
>> printing well worth the small extra requirements (Gnome is not actually
>> required).
>>
>>
>>
>>> Everything was perfect, until she asked me to insert a picture (a jpeg
>>> image) into the file:
>>> - the file size increased with no reason
>>>
>>
>>
>> Adding an image will not link to it but include it directly inside the
>> file, unlike how it works with a web page.
>>
>> As Hubert mentioned the JPEG is getting converted into PNG. On top of
>> that it is getting converted to text using base64 encoding.
>>
>> The upside is that if you were to use ZABW the file size would come back
>> down significantly but it still wouldn't be ideal.
>>
>> The abiword developers have been aware of the limitations and
>> downsides of
>> this approach since the beginning but OpenOffice didn't exist at the
>> time.
>> I expect if they were doing things again they would use a zip container
>> like OpenDocument but any change now would break back compatibility.
>>
>> Even if developers were interested in adjusting the file format there
>> would be a massive onslaught of even more questions about switching
>> entirely over to the OpenDocument standard.
>>
>> File format changes wouldn't gain many user visible improvements and
>> with
>> the other difficulties outlines I'm not surprised no one is rushing to
>> work on it. At best the most likely point of progress would be to
>> cut out
>> the extra JPEG -> PNG conversion which would help significantly.
>>
>>
>>
>>> - it takes ages to do everything
>>>
>>
>>
>> If you check bugzilla there are a few known issues which you may have
>> stubled upon but just in case you have found something new an example
>> document could be helpful in tracking it down.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Btw, I've tried printing to .pdf and then printing the .pdf /got/:
>>> same
>>> result, although Evince shows everything perfect.
>>>
>>
>>
>> >From that it does sound like you are using the Gnome version of
>> abiword and you may have found a bug in the printing system.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Haven't seen these problems between bugs (although several printing
>>> problems are listed), so may be it's just something solved, already.
>>> Can you provide some help, please ?
>>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not as familiar with all the bugs listed in the tracker as I used to
>> be but it doesn't immediately jump out at me as a known problem but
>> others
>> may know better.
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Alan Horkan
>>
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>>
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>>
>
> If you're using Breezy or Dapper, you are using the gnome-print
> version (2.4.2 or 2.4.4) so that isn't a concern. I have had trouble
> printing images on the Dapper version (abiword-gnome is the package
> name for me) - they come out as solid black rectangles, but print OK
> with evince. If the black doesn't work in any program, then I'm
> inclined to believe you're just either out of black ink or your
> cartridge is plugged, either of which is probably easiest remedied
> with a new black ink cartridge. The other suggestions Hub and Alan
> offered should hopefully apply to your other questions suitably.
>
> Thanks for using AbiWord!
>
> Ryan
>

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Received on Sun Sep 17 22:32:48 2006